Brenda-
I enjoyed this post. I came across it while writing one of my own and trying to find the attribution (Churchill) for the quote at the top of your page. If you have not seen it yet, there’s a youtube post with a video of the recording session for the “Obama’s gonna change it” children’s song released a few days back. The most interesting part is the last 30 seconds or so of the video – a clip from 1930’s Germany where the Hitler youth are singing a similar song dedicated to der Fuhrer in anticipation of how he was going to change everything for them.
Press on.
Rick
Thank you for your comment and for stopping by my site, Rick. I intend to check out youtube as you suggested. This site has gotten more hits than any other and it appears from the time spent on site that people do read it. Some stay long enough to read more than one post which gratifies me.
I don’t know if you read my profile but i am an old bird who has lived thru a great deal of 20th. century history, and came up when history was considered an important subject in schools. And the longer I live during this period when our past became unimportant the more appalled I am at young people’s naivete. It is not wholly their fault since our opinions are based on our experiences or the experiences of others that we know of. So believing it is possible to “talk to” dictators may not seem unreasonable to the young. Especially American youth who are conditioned by our society to discussing problems. However history has proven again and again since before Christ that dictators take talking as a sign of weakness; always have and always will. there is a certain mind set that all dictators possess and compromise is not an option for them. they take what they want unless stopped.
I am not really thrilled with Senator McCain as POTUS, but Obama terrifies me as I see him as a disaster. Some are saying that he will surround himself with people who can guide him. After Rev. Jeremiah “God Dam America” and the 20 years Obama sat in his church listening to and agreeing with his rantings against America, I don’t feel we can trust his judgment in appointing those who will be helping him either. Neither was I impressed with Mrs. Obama when she announced that she had never been proud of her country. These two trusted individuals give you a good idea of the kind of rhetoric Obama has indulged himself in before running for office. BB
Revisionist history. Your post starts strong then rapidly fades to speculation and opinion about what might have prompted the Cuban Missile Crisis and awkwardly evades the facts about how it was ultimately resolved. Your post is a purely partisan rant. Dissecting the whole thing would be trivial, if not for the waste of time. Funny how conservatives are so desperate to divert the conversation from their second economic failure of massive and historic proportion.
“Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.” Sir Winston Churchill
Posted by: brendabowers on: May 10, 2008
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I am always trying to correct misunderstandings about history that crop up more often than they should. This of course is a consequence of the schools beginning in the 1960’s to teach “social studies” instead of History. As a result we have two generations who know more about how the local sewage treatment plant operates than how the government operates. A generation who believe there was no intelligent life on Earth before they came on the scene. This is not to put younger people down, it is merely a sad fact that they have been cheated of vital information. Youth has always been arrogant and felt their elders were “behind the times” and “just didn’t understand”. My Dad could tell you I was absolutely horrid in my arrogance. But aside from that I do think there are those out there who do care what went down in the past and will appreciate a short history lesson.
I had started a post on this same subject, but haven’t yet finished. So am passing on a post sent to me by a friend (Dallas W) about the statement Barack Obama made in his NC victory speech that shows his incredible and dangerous lack of knowledge of history. I promise you it is totally accurate and detailed. Dallas and I both lived this history. Please read. BB
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In his victory speech after the North Carolina primary, Sen. Barack Obama said something that is all the more remarkable for how little it has been remarked upon.
In defending his stated intent to meet with America’s enemies without preconditions, Sen. Obama said: “I trust the American people to understand that it is not weakness, but wisdom to talk not just to our friends, but to our enemies, like Roosevelt did, and Kennedy did, and Truman did.”
That he made this statement, and that it passed without comment by the journalists covering his speech indicates either breathtaking ignorance of history on the part of both, or deceit.
I assume the Roosevelt to whom Sen. Obama referred is Franklin D. Roosevelt. Our enemies in World War II were Nazi Germany, headed by Adolf Hitler; fascist Italy , headed by Benito Mussolini, and militarist Japan , headed by Hideki Tojo. FDR talked directly with none of them before the outbreak of hostilities, and his policy once war began was unconditional surrender.
FDR died before victory was achieved, and was succeeded by Harry Truman. Truman did not modify the policy of unconditional surrender. He ended that war not with negotiation, but with the atomic bomb.
Harry Truman also was president when North Korea invaded South Korea in June, 1950. President Truman’s response was not to call up North Korean dictator Kim Il Sung for a chat. It was to send troops.
Perhaps Sen. Obama is thinking of the meeting FDR and Churchill had with Soviet dictator Josef Stalin in Tehran in December, 1943, and the meetings Truman and Roosevelt had with Stalin at Yalta and Potsdam in February and July, 1945. But Stalin was then a U.S. ally, though one of whom we should have been more wary than FDR and Truman were. Few historians think the agreements reached at Yalta and Potsdam , which in effect consigned Eastern Europe to slavery, are diplomatic models we ought to follow. Even fewer Eastern Europeans think so.
When Stalin’s designs became unmistakably clear, President Truman’s response wasn’t to seek a summit meeting. He sent military aid to Greece , ordered the Berlin airlift and the Marshall Plan, and sent troops to South Korea .
Sen. Obama is on both sounder and softer ground with regard to John F. Kennedy. The new president held a summit meeting with Soviet leader Nikita Khruschev in Vienna in June, 1961.
Elie Abel, who wrote a history of the Cuban missile crisis (The Missiles of October), said the crisis had its genesis in that summit.
“There is reason to believe that Khrushchev took Kennedy’s measure in June 1961 and decided this was a young man who would shrink from hard decisions,” Mr. Abel wrote. “There is no evidence to support the belief that Khrushchev ever questioned America ’s power. He questioned only the president’s readiness to use it. As he once told Robert Frost, he came to believe that Americans are ‘too liberal to fight.’”
That view was supported by New York Tim es columnist James Reston, who traveled to Vienna with President Kennedy: “Khrushchev had studied the events of the Bay of Pigs ,” Mr. Reston wrote. “He would have understood if Kennedy had left Castro alone or destroyed him, but when Kennedy was rash enough to strike at Cuba but not bold enough to finish the job, Khrushchev decided he was dealing with an inexperienced young leader who could be intimidated and blackmailed.”
It’s worth noting that Kennedy then was vastly more experienced than Sen. Obama is now. A combat veteran of World War II, Jack Kennedy served 14 years in Congress before becoming president. Sen. Obama has no military and little work experience, and has been in Congress for less than four years.
The closest historical analogue to Sen. Obama’s expressed desire to meet with no preconditions with anti-American dictators such as Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is the trip British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain and French premier Eduoard Daladier took to Munich in September of 1938 to negotiate “peace in our time” with Adolf Hitler. That didn’t work out so well.
History is an elective few liberals choose to take these days, noted a poster on the Web log “Hot Air.” The lack of historical knowledge among journalists is merely appalling. But in a presidential candidate it’s dangerous. As Sir Winston Churchill said:
“Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.”
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