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>>”Fiscal Death by Welfare” by Andrew Mellon (a MUST READ)

Posted on: March 1, 2010

I did something I seldom do, I carried over not only the entire article but the comments as well.  (There is only 112 of them at this point.)  Andrew Mellon is one of the most astute liberty loving individuals of our time.  I have made his blog  Mellon’s Musings. a part of my daily visits tho I have only “pimped” his article from Big Government Blog.  His bio reads: “Andrew Mellon is a liberty-loving student at Columbia University (oxymoronic though that may be). Writing deep behind enemy lines, Mellon covers issues political, social and economic with a Classical Liberal bent. He worked on his first campaign when he was five-years-old and has been fighting to return the country to its founding principles ever since. If you enjoy his pieces, check out his blog, Mellon’s Musings.

This particular article is a must read.  Not only a must read, but a must understand!    This is going to happen.  It will happen at some point in the future; maybe tomorrow maybe next week or next year but it will happen.  You must prepare for it.  We are all going to suffer when the chaos comes.  And as is usual; the poor among us will suffer the most.  Prepare yourselves and your families as best you can.  I would say save money but probably it would be better to buy up and save food.  Glenn Beck has been telling us to remember our Grandmother’s root cellar where she stored food over the summer  to carry the family thru the winter.  I mention this as being the best course of action for those of lower income because the dollar won’t be worth much  with hyperinflation.  At the same time you should save as much money as possible so you can continue to pay your rent or mortgage and utilities.  You will survive because people do.  Families and friends pull together and help each other.   We as a people have survived before but this time will simply be so much worse because we have been made dependent on the nanny state which is not going to be there for us any more.  The biggest entitlement programs will simply have to go since they now take up one half of our national budget: No Social Security, no Medicare, no Medicaid, no government services of any kind for anyone at all!  Only  the necessary  police services for our personal security and possibly the city utilities.  Our nation has come to the point where there simply is no more money and soon there will be no more lenders.  Remember: we are now borrowing from China to pay the interest on our debt to China!  But as things continue to get bad for the people of the United States and the people stop buying then China too will suffer because the imports from China will decrease causing factories to close in China.  Do you see the connection and how our fall will cause another  because we have become so inter dependent as nations?  It is like tying your income to your neighbors work and spending habits and having him spend like a drunken sailor.  We Americans have been the drunken sailor!

(Sigh) Please read the article .  BB


Fiscal Death by Welfare

by Andrew Mellon  (highlights are mine BB)

Ironically enough, the medicine applied by our state as the antidote for our ills has proven to be poison.  The welfare state is killing our nation.  Today entitlement spending makes up nearly half of our budget.  Long term, we know that there will be no way to pay off our unfunded obligations — we will go bankrupt. There will be three options ultimately, though ultimately can come quite suddenly: default, hyperinflation or abolition of the welfare state.


Default is considered by many to be an impossible option as it would likely lead to mass chaos given the necessary suspension of many government services, not to mention the practical reality that WE are the collateral in the event of default.  To default is to be honest, and to be honest is anathema to the state.

Hyperinflation in my view is the most likely outcome given the massive increase in the money supply, which is good for politicians until it hits because it allows them to kick problems down the road and impose a stealth tax.  Currently, government is toeing the line between monetizing debt and intervening to keep its borrowing rates down, while incentivizing banks to keep money in their vaults or pump it into the stock market.

I believe that as the downturn goes on the government will blame the banks for the lack of economic growth and force them to allocate credit to chosen political entrepreneurs and other bad credit risks, leading to massive inflation in prices which they will likely blame on evil speculators and greedy price gouging companies.  Hyperinflation would allow the government to pay for the welfare state –  by writing entitlement checks in worthless dollars and lead to economic paralysis as constantly rising prices would make economic calculation and thus commerce impossible.

The final option would lead to the crucifixion of politicians.  Of course, this might not be such a bad thing.  All joking aside, there is a reason that entitlement spending is categorized as “mandatory” spending in our budget.  It is wrongfully viewed as an essential function of a civilized western nation, and its end would be met with a serious backlash from all of the welfare state’s recipients.

(The screaming will be loud and hysterical when Social Security and Medicare are cut!  Look what happens when there is even a hint that Medicare may be cut just a speck which the $500,000  really is.  The elderly have grown accustomed to being care for by the nanny state and they feel they have a right because of being bad mannered enough to get old entitles them to special treatment.  And they feel no concern for the young who are trying to pay the bills or the future children who will pay their bills!   BB)

Yet while default is the most honest option, hyperinflation the most likely and abolition the most untenable, in my view it is the third option which is the inevitable end, regardless of the path we choose, with the only question being whether we take our lumps now or at some unknown and jarring point in the future.

But it never had to be this way. Back in February of 1887, Texan farmers were struggling as a severe drought was killing their crops.  Congress was looking to pass an appropriations bill to bail out the ailing farmers.  President Grover Cleveland had the following to say on the matter:

Though there has been some difference in statements concerning the extent of the people’s needs in the localities thus affected, there seems to be no doubt that there has existed a condition calling for relief; and I am willing to believe that, notwithstanding the aid already furnished, a donation of seed grain to the farmers located in this region, to enable them to put in new crops, would serve to avert a continuance or return of an unfortunate blight.

And yet I feel obliged to withhold my approval of the plan as proposed by this bill, to indulge a benevolent and charitable sentiment through the appropriation of public funds for that purpose.

I can find no warrant for such an appropriation in the Constitution, and I do not believe that the power and duty of the general government ought to be extended to the relief of individual suffering which is in no manner properly related to the public service or benefit. A prevalent tendency to disregard the limited mission of this power and duty should, I think, be steadfastly resisted, to the end that the lesson should be constantly enforced that, though the people support the government, the government should not support the people.

The friendliness and charity of our countrymen can always be relied upon to relieve their fellow citizens in misfortune…Federal aid in such cases encourages the expectation of paternal care on the part of the government and weakens the sturdiness of our national character, while it prevents the indulgence among our people of that kindly sentiment and conduct which strengthens the bonds of a common brotherhood.

Unfortunately, as we well know future politicians failed to heed these words.  Due in large part to the New Deal and Great Society legislation, post-Lochner era court decisions and ideological subversion of the left in media and academia, the state became the paternalistic figure that it is today.  The welfare state imposed on the people the notion that we were morally required through the force of government to help out our fellow man, an inherently immoral argument.  In so doing, the state became the institution of moral hazard.

By providing aid to untapped politically lucrative constituencies for many of life’s woes, the state altered the character of the American people.  When before, life was based on self-reliance, innovation and entrepreneurship, today a wide swath of American life is based on dependency, complacency and politics, an ironic assertion in that we built our wealth that funded the welfare state on the very foundations that the welfare state undermines.  George Will outlined this transformation eloquently in his CPAC speech.

The demoralizing nature of the welfare state in absolving people from making decisions on matters of health, career and retirement in altering our character necessarily altered our actions, the sum of which make up our economy.  By taking long term planning out of the hands of people, the welfare state led us to increase our time preferences.  Time preference refers to our relative short term or long term orientation.  When we prepare for the long term, we make prudent decisions such as saving more and borrowing and spending less, in expectation of reaping greater rewards down the road.  On the other hand, when government taxes, reducing returns on capital and removes the need for cogent planning, we become more short term oriented, valuing more highly instant gratification achieved through spending and borrowing more to consume today.  High time preferences result in low capital formation, high real interest rates and diminished prosperity.

It should be noted that politicians are not immune to time preferences.  Since politicians are concerned most with getting re-elected, and the state came to be seen as the mechanism for spreading the wealth around to various voting blocs, naturally there grew a conflagration of welfare programs (using the term welfare loosely) funded through direct taxation, inflation and debt with little regard for the future.

The psychological and concomitant economic effects of the redistributive state cannot be understated.  What has been consistently understated is what the world would look like without the welfare state.  If we were to abolish Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, billions of dollars would return to the hands of the people.  People would have to plan their lives more carefully and responsibly and redevelop the drive that had been taken from them by the state, and they would allocate these new funds accordingly.  This influx of new cash to be reallocated according to the preferences of consumers would lead to unimagined innovations.

How many new hospitals, pharmaceutical companies and insurers would crop up?  How many more dollars would people save for retirement and in so doing invest in the private sector?  How many charitable organizations would be created for people to voluntarily help their fellow man?  How many government bureaucrats would be unleashed into the economy and employed in productive jobs?  How many productive jobs would the private sector create?  How many people would pick themselves up out of poverty?  One fascinating anecdotal example of the types of innovations that occurred when the government did not coddle people from cradle to grave was the institution of the fraternal society, one of the functions of which was healthcare provision under “lodge practice,” whereby society members could voluntarily pool their money and draw upon it when in need of medical care.  Prices were low and service was of quality until government intervened and destroyed the practice.

Now surely, as a practical matter the scrapping of the welfare state would cause great disruption, and people expecting to receive and/or reliant on benefits would incur immediate hardships.  But with the infusion of capital back into the hands of private individuals making decisions for themselves, in the long run our standard of living would increase, our competitive advantage in the world would widen and we would restore the national character to which Cleveland spoke.  We would reverse the demoralization and economic stagnation induced by the state.  We would see the bountiful unseen benefits blocked by the massive edifice of the state that holds our people back. It bears remembering that we didn’t grow wealthy with a safety net under us in the first place.

Our society was built on the non-aggression principle.  Individuals should be free to pursue purposeful ends so long as they do not harm others.  Government’s role is to protect us from external harm by providing defense, public safety and the courts.  By government attempting to protect us from the harm of our own decisions, imposing morality on the people through forcing some to subsidize others, government becomes an immoral, socially and economically destructive institution and perpetuates a cycle of intervention, dependency, crisis and further intervention.

As the healthcare debate rages on, and in context of the reality on the ground today, it surely seems as if we are miles from the end of the welfare state.  But indeed, we are going to arrive at the end of the experiment of the Ponzi welfare scheme, and it will not be by government fiat but by gravity.  This will be a blessing in disguise, though the short term pain of a sudden collapse will be great.  Traumatic as the collapse of the welfare state will be for those reliant on it, collapse will go quite a ways towards restoring power back with its rightful owners, the people.
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Cowboy Logic's avatar - Go to profile Cowboy Logic 118p · 16 hours ago

Parasitical organisms must always live off their host organisms, until they have drained them of blood. Then they move on to the next host, for the next free lunch, and free ride…………

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“The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public’s money.”
Alexis de Tocqueville’Dominique Strauss-Kahn, the head of the International Monetary Fund, suggested Friday the organization might one day be called on to provide countries with a global reserve currency that would serve as an alternative to the U.S. dollar.’
Won’t that be nice? That is exactly how the the British Empire fell from world economic power when the ‘pound’ lost status…

Wasn’t it Rahm Emanuel who said ‘“Let not one crisis go to waste”?
One really has to wonder just what the end game is here, these are not stupid people in the White House.

4 replies · active 3 hours ago

“Reagan proved deficits don’t matter”— DICK CHENEY

7 replies · active 13 hours ago

Well written, Mr. Mellon.
“The final option would lead to the crucifixion of politicians.”
I favor the final option. Although painful, it does offer full relief, in the end.

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Excellent post, Mr.Mellon.This is Truth, and it hurts.Just how disconnected from reality are our politicians?This article shows, quite succinctly, how far in the stratosphere the pols are today. Engorged with their own self-importance, these pompous fools have taken our great nation from the heights of greatness to the shallows of despair, accelerating the course exponentially in just a couple of generations.None dare call it Treason? I do.

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MarkG's avatar - Go to profile MarkG 98p · 15 hours ago

“I contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle.” – Winston Churchill”When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.” – Benjamin Franklin

“A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.” – Thomas Jefferson

“Government’s view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.” – Ronald Reagan

“Welfare’s purpose should be to eliminate, as far as possible, the need for its own existence.” – Ronald Reagan

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StoryKeeper's avatar - Go to profile StoryKeeper 83p · 15 hours ago

Can we say Cloward-Piven?

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Welfare is the extension of slavery which is acceptable to the lazy and irresponsible for generations. If you are a welfare recipient; then this indictment is for you. You have no honor.

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I think its all part of the progressive design. To change us they must first break us. Share the weath…let all the illegal immigrants in who can receive benefits without paying taxes. Create countless useless entitlement programs to “help them” (the poor and lazy) and of course share some kool aid. Normal hard working Americans don’t believe in entitlement and the progressives know that so.. they buy the votes and support of the poor and lazy and import others who will do anything to get out of there own country.

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Your whining might have more legitimacy if you prioritized your focus a bit. “Welfare” on Americans is more justified than welfare on foreigners – particularly violent, terrorist foreigners who have attacked us and make enemies for us by supporting them: Israel.

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Excellent and very, very honest piece. It’s a shame FDR was right when he said that no damned politician would ever get rid of his social programs. The people are too damned used to the government handout right now. There are too many out there that would only lift a finger to keep the checks coming – and then sit right back down on their sorry, lazy butts.

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Ron Greene's avatarRon Greene · 15 hours ago

New York cops get a pension of 80 % of their last year of service salary so what they do is buy up overtime from other officers to run up thier last year salary to 120 % of normal and then after 20 years retire collecting 100 % salary for the next 30 years plus their Social Security and none of this money has been set aside and all must be pulled from that states annual revenue.
It just cannot work the numbers just do not add up and something must be done to end this.

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kooz's avatar - Go to profile kooz 80p · 15 hours ago

Unemployment compensation has to be adding to this right now.
I suppose the recession in general.
It would be great to have a time table,but I suppose the best thing is to buy what you need now
without going into debt.

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The welfare state cannot exist without the creation of an authoritarian government structure which forcibly takes the funds from one to give to another.After that, it’s just a matter of degree – in how much is taken from the “haves,” and how much force is used in the taking.

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Woodshedder's avatarWoodshedder · 14 hours ago

Excellent. I agree with you 100%. And I thought I was the only one having these kinds of thoughts.

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Once a people accept the notion that failure should be rewarded, it was all over.

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To quote Rush Limbaugh, we are speaking truth to welfare.Hey Obama – you wanna see fundamental transformation – The Tea Party Movement is gonna create a Revolution against the big government monster your ilk feeds off and they’ll return America back to First Principles.

The free ride is over for you parasites!

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Preventing the insolvency of the socialist welfare entitlement state has been the goal of every administration for a very long time, and crafty politicians have been inventing ways to forestall the event. After all, no politician wants to be the one who presides over that.This, I believe, is the prime motivation for “comprehensive health care reform,” with its four years of benefit free tax increases and medicare cuts used to prop up social security, as well as the cap and tax green agenda which is designed to extract more money from every American in order to move the eventual collapse of the welfare state beyond 2012.

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but they need anohter $93,000 for petty cash !!!! WTF ?????What is wrong with them? This is not the hope and change I voted for !!!!

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On a site that’s full of excellent posts, Mr. Mellon’s writings the past few weeks provide the clearest warnings of a perfect storm dead ahead, how it formed, and some idea of painful choices to be faced.. We Americans sometimes pat ourselves on the back about extreme hardships overcome by previous generations, forgetting the genuine and lasting pain involved, and imagining it immunizes us from any real pain of our own.Unfortunately, we’re likely to experience a historic crisis firstthand. And it it wil be largely inflicted from within.Some Democrats argue they just need to push their stinking carcass of a health-care bill over the hump to get it passed by any means, and Americans will learn to like it. This sounds like some crack dealer who wants to pin down a recovering addict and shoot them up in the arm, figuring once that addictve dependency is injected forcefully, they’ll have a lifelong customer. It may mean ruin for the victim, but keeps the money and power flowing to the pushers, BHO, Pelosi, Reid & crew.

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The collapse of Greece, & the potential of the same for Ireland & other western European countries will bring about the fall of the EU. The U.K. will double-dip into recession followed by the U.S., Japan & China. We are witnessing the final cut w/all ties to 20th century policy. The short term result will be difficult to say the least as those who’ve become addicted to government-imposed dependency start waking up to the real world without their fix. This will be the evil outcome the political “Left” (of both parties) has imposed; FDR’s legacy. But the long term runout will be a much better place & uniquely 21st century as Americans again learn to be self-reliant & neighbor-helping neighbor becomes the new norm.

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Marko68's avatar - Go to profile Marko68 36p · 13 hours ago

Thanks for finally calling it what it really is, WELFARE! The 800lb guerilla in the room at the summit are politicians don’t dare mention.

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j2points's avatarj2points · 13 hours ago

Get ready for the great recession of 2012 & the final defeat of Liberal Progressivism.

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ahahahahaah all your cons .. fell for the republican line.. they got you convinced that ALL our tax $$’s are spent on people who sit around drinking beer and not working – collecting welfare….
the fact is if congress started to cut all that YOU think is “welfare”.. so many of you would jump up and say “hey not that one”… then on the other hand you are happy with 13 aircraft carrier groups and corporate american paying them selves HUGE bonuses… if my country is going to pay for anything. .I want it to pay for what the people need not what corporate america needs
we need to cut ALL the fat
this is NOT a left/right issue.. it is US against them…..
no palin.. no obama.. no cheney

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Government-worker unions are on the rise and they are demanding higher salaries and benefits with your tax dollars. They refuse to take pay cuts, benefit cuts, more employee contributions, etc.. They want top raise property taxes, payroll taxes, corporate taxes, user fees, higher sales tax, food tax, etc…If you are lucky they will sue you with your tax money and take the unions dues you give them to continue to socialize America.…

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“Death by Deficit” and “Death by Welfare” are two phrases that should resonate with most Americans. We should use those phrases relentlessly because they clearly enunciate the future and our consequences of the path we are on.

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StanH's avatar - Go to profile StanH 109p · 13 hours ago

That’s what stimulus (porkulus) was all about TARP, healthcare, and on and on. These bastard politicians have over promised, and now, “America’s chickens…have come home to roost!” Stand back America the parasite class with devour itself. It’s time to say, “NO!”

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mac1000's avatar - Go to profile mac1000 1p · 13 hours ago

I work in the welfare state. I can promise you that welfare has killed more people than poverty ever did. It has helped NO ONE. And at what staggering cost. Look at the crime rate, the incarceration rates, the miscarriage rate, the life expectancy among welfare recipients. It’s a staggering travesty and our tax dollars are paying for this death.

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OklahomaBound's  avatarOklahomaBound · 13 hours ago

toconn – March 1st, 2010 at 1:18 am
“Reagan proved deficits don’t matter”— DICK CHENEY

Hey “toconn”, obviously Chenny never could have imagined that a Progressive scumbag like Obama would come along and run up a deficit in one year that exceeded all of the deficit spending of every President in the history of this country combined. When you spend that kind of money to the welfare left and unions then deficits DO MATTER!

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Dau.of Patton's  3rd's avatarDau.of Patton’s 3rd · 12 hours ago

The Marxist in Chief must be awfully proud to see this happening.
Probably has a thrill go down his leg everytime he thinks about it.

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cardon's avatar - Go to profile cardon 79p · 12 hours ago

We should be inundating our Senators and Congressmen with
e-mails, letters, phone calls, about this healthcare takeover…
Time to put on the pressure…With all the people out of work, and
not paying taxes, there will be a shortfall…there’s no way they’ll be
able to pay for the programs they have without adding this piece
of crap…..

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Congrats’ America Your entiteded To It!

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All Your Entitede Are Us

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Over The Hill's  avatarOver The Hill · 12 hours ago

It’s About time

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Socialism is a fraud. Keynesian economics is a fraud.Socialism lets politicians lie to gullible people, telling them what they want to hear, which is that they can get something for nothing. Keynesianism lets the politicians print unlimited amounts of money to pay for the promises. But when the promises come due, there will be a reckoning and it is coming.

In times of financial collapse and turmoil, civil society may break down. It is at that time that our civil society is weakest and may either devolve towards dictatorship, under the guise of keeping civil order, or civil society will recover and reboot itself. We need to be prepared for that time.

It does not bode well, or give any comfort, to know that the Federal government is hurriedly trying to make us give up our liberty in advance of that time.

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Nothing worth having ever comes easy.
I remember Jack Kemp (speaking around the time Perot got Clinton elected and the MSM caused the L.A. Riots) advocating the creation of “enterprise zones” in inner cities. As I recall this involved tax breaks and govt loans. I thought “eh, not too bad” but then I heard him talking about home ownership [because you don’t burn what you own] and while I can’t remember the details I think it was an expansion on the already growing Fannie/Freddie bubble.
See, while I paid attention to politics, without the benefit of Liberal indoctrination, I hadn’t a clue about the ramifications of the Open Conspiracy in play. I knew something was wrong – that RINOs were filling the ranks of the Republican party but I didn’t know about the Progressive infiltration or agenda. I’m indebted to Andrew Breitbart, Beck and the other New Media outlets for bringing truth to the surface for all the world to see.
Now, how are we going to get that country “though the people support the government, the government should not support the people” back?

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Dave Rooney's avatarDave Rooney · 10 hours ago

Mr. Mellon.With all due respect give a time line or time table when you say “Hyperinflation in my view is the most likely outcome given the massive increase in the money supply, which is good for politicians until it hits because it allows them to kick problems down the road and impose a stealth tax.”

One year? Two years? Three years?

You’re not speaking about the crux of the crisis. And that is fatal. CREDIT my friend is contracting and is in a tailspin. Those that want it can’t get it. Those that can get don’t want it.

How on Gods great green earth is that inflationary in the near term? Are you suggesting that house prices have to rise to unleash pent up credit? Hyperinflation is a wet dream for the Fed. Gold bugs are going to take some heat. Which ones can hold on and not be forced to sell time will only tell.

This analysis is not only counterproductive to BIGs readers but it almost galvanizes their beliefs. NOTHING will reverse the credit contraction with current prices. It will be a huge lower price tailspin that precedes the availability of fresh new credit. Ergo reduce the risk and let the new games begin.

But at that juncture you will find an American psyche so wounded by the carnage that only the brave souls will step up to the plate and seize opportunity. And that is how fortunes are made. Be prepared to act and not react. And based on the what I see as prevalent few will be in a position to act. The masses will be scared chitless.

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If you want to really understand all that needs to be changed. Just look here at what the last Congress did (110th.) With an avg of 170 days in session they enacted 460 Laws >> of the laws had to do with funding/creating entitlements and monuments to cronies. We have a long way to go to correct ourselves.

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When we have card carrying socialists in our government, no one complains, people elect these people.
This seems to me these are the free loaders of society, these are the people who want more.
60 plus congress people are Democratic Socialist.
Until the people of the nation become independent thinkers, and become informed, the DemoRats will destroy our great Nation.
It will take generations to try to undo what this administration has done, if ever.

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And the rose colored glasses approach that future growth will bring in more revenues, I’ll work twice as hard in the future knowing that my hard work will be transfered by the likes of Nanny Pelosi to those she deems worthy, by sacrificing my labor for the greater good I will get that euphoric feeling of being a good commie.

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Roundup_Logan's  avatarRoundup_Logan · 4 hours ago

I’ve always thought the true underlying issue with health care was to kick the entitlement program crash further down the road. We should start reversing this now by cleaning out the illegals off the welfare roles, then move to married couples (potential double income earners), and then start raising the income base line lower and lower to be elligible for any type of public assistance until soon if you make more than $1000 a year you won’t get public assistance. And if you can walk, talk, and breath – you can work and if you can work, you don’t need public assistance. Spend your time working instead of standing in the welfare line to get some of Obama’s “stash”.

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It’s called ‘mordidas’, the death of a thousand cuts.

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Tyrant's avatar - Go to profile Tyrant 53p · 4 hours ago

We have too many illegal immigrants, AND too many recent “legal” immigrants we unwisely allowed into the country that have become a burden to society. They need to go.

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Kevin  Butterfield's avatarKevin Butterfield · 3 hours ago

I see no real end to the welfare state. In fact, it is probably more true that the vision concerning monetary ends for the citizenry according to the Socialist visionaries is a society where there are no wages, but credit. You would work, do your job, and have an allotment of resources that you can access. Products would be government controlled, and therefore equal in quality, so excessive consumption would be, theoretically, phased out. For instance, think, no exotic sports cars, because there would only need to be so many models for certain demographics necessary to produce in a One-Minded homogenized society. Obviously, sports cars are not a necessity. All that is needed in this particular scenario is for an exotic car company to fail, become owned by the government, and have it decided that the best interest of the company is to be absorbed by a general car manufacturer where, from that point, the exotic car companies goals and aspirations for future models is also absorbed. Ahhh, there is so much to consider, but it really is similar to 1984. Healthcare definitely is a major first step in building this new world. Mind, it isn’t begun with welfare – that was tearing down the old. I see it starting with healthcare, because society turns on food, and health is primarily about consumption. So, it isn’t about controlling money really, but controlling actual needs. Needs are subconscious, and logical. There is a lot to consider…

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Justamused's avatarJustamused · 3 hours ago

After coming out of a Wal-mart, filled with “Made in China” merchandise, I watch as a mother/daughter sumo team worked strenulously to lift the lard they carried on their frames into a $52,000, 2009 F-350 Ford. It was convieniently parked in the handicapped spot with bales of hay (a sure sign of hay burning horses) and empty beer cans. A cigarete dangled out the puffy, celulosic lips of both. I was amazed that a disable individual could climb into such a tall vehicle, let alone afford it. This thing was crew cab diesel. Heel, I work for a living and can’t afford such high end equipment. But I guess Walmart’s motto is right, “SAVE MONEY, LIVE BETTER”. Keep paying your taxes kids. The poor need you.

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Yeah, well, when the $hit hits the fan we suburbanites won’t look so stupid for having fled the cities. Welfare has to end, just like those ridiculous and unsustainable gov’t salaries have to end, and the end won’t be pretty.

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its time  continued's avatarits time continued · 3 hours ago

If you cannot help yourself, then you can you help?

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How does ANYONE expect the problem to be corrected when the scumbag PRESIDENT of the UNITED STATES is, himself, a welfare rat and entitlement clown. From his high school days to his degrees at Columbia and Harvard he has sucked on the welfare teat of minority programs to pay his way. And no records to ever be reviewed. Gee.. I WONDER WHY ! One cannot change the stripes on a welfare bum. It’s generational as those of us who have lived close to large urban areas know !Cut all welfare programs and subsidies to minority pregnancies immediately. Let them work as I am sick and tired of carrying their lazy asses while they get their “HAIR AND NAILS DID” ! Lazy scumbags…. Soon to change !

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In a world where a smug socialist president takes cheap pot-shots at a vietnam war hero, serving in Congress, and is obsessed with using the words HealthCare to ‘transform America’ into a Welfare state, we have no choice but to use whatever freedoms we still have left, to to overthrow him and his entire team. TeaPartyNurse, NJ

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Look on the bright side!Economic meltdown will present plenty of opportunities to get back in touch with our roots!

Dig up your lawn and plant crops! Get a rifle and learn how to hunt (something edible, not each other …).
Throw away that useless paper money and learn how to carve wampum out of clam shells!

Consider it as an opportunity for personal growth!

sbenard's avatarsbenard · 45 minutes ago

“Death by Deficit” and “Death by Welfare” are two phrases that should resonate with most Americans. We should use those phrases relentlessly because they clearly enunciate the future and our consequences of the path we are on.

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I am just an old lady who has lived 72 years and watched my country moving towards this point in it’s history. Ben Franklin told a lady who asked him what the founding father’s had given us that they had given the people a republic and then warned “if they can keep it”. During my llifetime We the People have been losing our republic. This is the final phase and I am heartened to see that many of us are finally waking up. I am especially heartened to see that the ones waking up are the young 20 and 30 somethings.
If you want to know what is going on and has been going on you may want to go to my right hand column and just read some of my older posts. They are still relevant, and many of the issues are still in the phase where something can still be done to stop the destruction.
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