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>>ObamaCare: The Slaughter House Three: Obama, Pelosi and Reid

Posted on: March 20, 2010

» ObamaCare: The Slaughter House Three – Big Government

A very apt anology for what is going to happen to America under Obamacare.  I am only praying some House members told the three they were now a yes vote just to get them off their back and when it comes to the actual vote they will show themselves to be Americans first.  BB

The latest version of ObamaCare is troubling on many fronts. ObamaCare takes control of every American’s health care life. This plan would not improve the current system, and is fatally flawed because it:

  • Rations and denies access to healthcare. Denying access to healthcare is the most inhumane and unethical means of cutting costs;
  • Costs $1 TRILLION ( $100 Billion more than The Senate Bill) ;
  • Creates over 110 Federal Agencies, commissions and boards;
  • Creates The Health Insurance Rate Authority….a direct violation of States’ Rights;
  • Establishes a “ Comprehensive Database” on Americans;
  • Establishes Individual and Employer Mandates (Mr. Obama’s own Chair of Council of Economic Advisors has stated that this alone would cost 5.5 Million jobs….more unemployment.);
  • Institutes $748 Billion in new taxes;
  • Cuts Medicare by $500 Billion, over a period when 30% MORE Americans will be added to Medicare rolls, (You do the math…);
  • Imposes $136 Billion in tax hikes on working families making LESS THAN $250,000 (Americans for Tax Reform Analysis);
  • Ends Medicare Advantage Program for Seniors and forces them to a more expensive plan with less benefits;
  • Applies Medicare Tax to unearned income;
  • Increases Medicare Payroll Tax from 2.95 to 3.8%; and
  • Increases unfunded mandates on every State.
  • Increases Capital Gains tax rate as of 2014 to 23.8%
  • Creates 16,000 jobs for the IRS to implement penalties for those not buying insurance

The Slaughterhouse Three, Obama, Pelosi and Reid, have authored the legislation that will make every American a POW, strip them of their Freedoms and Liberty and shove them in a meat cellar for cold storage. So how is that Hope and Change working for you now?

4 Responses to ">>ObamaCare: The Slaughter House Three: Obama, Pelosi and Reid"

Republican Ideas Included in the Healthcare Reform bill, and yet not a single yes vote
March 20, 2010 by cheffer57
Republican Ideas Included in the President’s Proposal, and yet not a single YES Vote.
Pending who you listen to and when you’re listening it’s a 50 / 50 split on this whole healthcare Bill. For what seems like years (but really only 2 months) I have been posting the question. I do hope this is the last time I ask.

Why can’t the American People (that’s us) have the same Healthcare coverage as our Elected Officials Have?

I have received answers like:

“it’s to expensive” “what about the deficit?”

“That’s’ socialism” WHAT? “Suck it up and pay for your own”…….

”Why should we pay for yours, who is paying for me?”

“You voted for him didn’t you?”

So let me reply to some of the response, To expensive, as compared to what is to expensive, an ongoing war? From http://www.ourfuture.org

Iraq War Costs
The Facts
The cost of Iraq in lives lost and scarred is incalculable. It has also had staggering economic costs here at home.

So far, the federal government has authorized $656 billion for the Iraq war. Of that total, $152 billion was appropriated to fund the Iraq war during the current fiscal year. [Congressional Research Service] That amounts to more than $12 billion per month and $416 million per day. These figures include neither operations in Afghanistan nor anti-terrorism programs elsewhere around the world nor the costs of caring for the wounded or replenishing our arsenals. Iraq war costs do include $34 billion spent for construction projects in Iraq, training and equipping Iraqi soldiers and police officers, contracts with and grants to Iraqi organizations and businesses, and funds used to prop up Iraqi government operations.

With $656 billion—the direct cost of the war in Iraq since 2003—we could have:

» Brought to “good condition” all of America’s deteriorating public structures—bridges and roads, airports and railroads, schools and parks, water and sewer systems; [American Society of Civil Engineers] or
» Paid for a college education for every high school graduate over the next decade; [U.S. Department of Education] or
» Eliminated hunger worldwide. [Reuters]
With $152 billion—one year of funding for the war in Iraq—we could have:

» Provided high-quality health insurance coverage for the 47 million men, women, and children who are uninsured; [Economic Policy Institute, New York Times] or
» Paid the cost of Social Security benefits for three years; [Social Security Administration] or
» Invested 300 times more money than is currently allocated to research and develop renewable energy technology. [Center for American Progress]
With $12 billion—one month of funding for the war in Iraq—we could have:

» Covered the 4 million children who were denied health insurance coverage when President Bush vetoed SCHIP funding; [Center on Budget and Policy Priorities] or
» Tripled the budget for cancer research at the National Cancer Institute; or
» Carried out all 9/11 Commission recommendations. [New York Times]
With $416 million—one day of funding for the war in Iraq—we could have:

» Secured our homes with 160 new police officers in every state; [Bureau of Labor Statistics] or
» Helped more than 100,000 students afford college with Pell Grants of $4,000 apiece; [U.S. Department of Education] or
» Lowered class sizes in public schools by hiring 8,300 new teachers. [Bureau of Labor Statistics]
» The long-term costs of the war will exceed $3 trillion. Economic expert Linda Bilmes and Nobel Prize-winner Joseph Stiglitz estimate the direct long-term costs of the Iraq war at over $3 trillion. [Washington Post] That includes the cost of caring for wounded veterans, repairing and replacing worn-out military weapons and equipment, and paying interest on the national debt caused by the war. This staggering sum could have: Paid off 1/3 of the national debt; or
» Paid not only for our transition to energy independence, but also provided our nation with the most modern and efficient transport, communications and waters systems in the world, while creating literally millions of jobs here at home.
Then there’s the Deficit. From the Washington Post:

CBO: Health-care reform bill cuts deficit by $1.3 trillion over 20 years, covers 95%

Washington has spent the past week or so waiting for the Congressional Budget Office to release its preliminary estimate of the Senate bill with the reconciliation fixes. Not only are those numbers important for the debate, but Democratic leaders refuse to release the actual text of their changes until CBO releases the specifics of its analysis.

According to a Democratic source, CBO has finished its work and will release the official preliminary score later today. But here are the basic numbers: The bill will cost $940 billion over the first 10 years and reduce the deficit by $130 billion during that period. In the second 10 years — so, 2020 to 2029 — it will reduce the deficit by $1.2 trillion. The legislation will cover 32 million Americans, or 95 percent of the legal population.

To put this in context, that’s more deficit reduction than either the House or Senate bill, and more coverage than the Senate bill.

How they got these numbers, and whether there are important qualifiers, will be easier to say once CBO releases its analysis. But the bottom line is that this is the exact sort of score that Democrats wanted, and is in fact considerably better than some had come to expect they would receive. Coverage is better than the Senate bill, which will reassure liberals, and deficit reduction is better than either bill, which will reassure conservatives.

Then there is the socialism aspect: much too much to copy and paste so just Click here comrade and enjoy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialized_medicine

I’m going to skip the “suck it up” one as well as the “why pay for yours”

The one that boggles me is “You voted for him” Him being I President Obama Yes I did and I would do it again, No matter what Sean and Sarah say. Wink Wink.

This leads me to this Yahoo post , http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100318204950AAzimIh

No I don’t think anybody who questions his policies are racists, however just a few years ago I was told that I’m not an American if I question the idea of invading Iraq. So I ask myself why aren’t any Republicans voting for the passing of this Healthcare Bill. The Republicans and Americans, They live in this country too, they need healthcare, their families need healthcare., surely not everyone in their district is opposed to it. I mean there has to be one person in Ohio that wants this bill to pass.

So then I figure maybe they are upset that Obama didn’t include any of those great Republican ideas, but wait, there are some Republican ideas in the bill, so they are note voting for their own ideas? Here are those ideas that ARE IN THE BILL. From Google.com

Review a few of the Republican initiatives included in legislation passed by Congress:

» Includes personal responsibility incentives: Allows health insurance premium to vary based on participation in proven employer wellness programs
» (Sources: H.R. 3468, “Promoting Health and Preventing Chronic Disease through Prevention and Wellness Programs for Employees, Communities, and Individuals Act” (Castle bill); H.R. 4038, “Common Sense Health Care Reform & Accountability Act” (Republican Substitute bill); H.R. 3400, “Empowering Patients First Act” (Republican Study Committee bill); H.R. 3970, “Medical Rights & Reform Act” (Kirk bill), “Coverage, Prevention and Reform Act”)
» Advances medical liability reform through grants to States: Provides grants to States to jump-start and evaluate promising medical liability reform ideas to put patient safety first, prevent medical errors, and reduce liability premiums.
» (Sources: S. 1783, “Ten Steps to Transform Health Care in America Act” (Enzi bill); H.R. 3400, “Empowering Patients First Act” (Republican Study Committee bill); H.R. 4529, “Roadmap for America’s Future Act” (Ryan bill); S. 1099, “Patients’ Choice Act” (Burr-Coburn, Ryan-Nunes bill))
» Extends dependent coverage to age 26: Gives young adults new options.
» (Sources: H.R. 4038, “Common Sense Health Care Reform & Accountability Act” (Republican Substitute bill); H.R. 3970, “Medical Rights & Reform Act” (Kirk bill))
» Allows automatic enrollment by employers in health insurance: Allows employee to opt-out.
» (Sources: House Republican Substitute; H.R. 3400, “Empowering Patients First Act” (Republican Study Committee bill); “Coverage, Prevention, and Reform Act” )
» Mechanisms to improve quality.
» (Sources: H.R. 4529, “Roadmap for America’s Future Act;” S. 1099, “Patients’ Choice Act;” H.R. 3400, Republican Study Group bill; S. 1783, “Ten Steps to Transform Health Care in America Act” (Enzi bill))
In addition to the Republican ideas already included in the legislation that’s passed the House and the Senate, the President’s Proposal incorporates a number of additional proposals that were included in Republican plans that focus on combating waste, fraud and abuse in government.

So there it is…………………………………………..

Cheffer57, Health care in the United States did need some fixing, but it did not need this huge total take over by the federal government. Medicare being passed in 1965 by Johnson and his Great society was what started the cost of medical care spiraling out of site. When the government gets into anything the cost increases hugely. there is not one program you can name that the government runs effectively except perhaps the military. But aside from having the greatest and best trained military in the world there is still a great deal of waste and fraud in the military also. It is however one of the FEW duties our Constitution gives to the federal government.

Medicare was projected in 1965 to cost $12 billion in 1990. Instead it cost $127 billion! Medicare is now completely broke and not because the money has been spent elsewhere but because the cost have been so great that the payroll deductions were not enough to keep up. How long do you think our nation can afford to have Obamacare considering our treasury is now bankrupt and China, India and Japan is funding our lifestyle. If anyone of them calls their notes (cashes in their Treasury Bills) then our country is bankrupt.

I can not understand why this fact is not understood. I am dumbfounded by people like you who accept the lies being told and can not look for yourself at the facts. Do the research, you are on the Internet. You might go to the right side of this page and scroll down to Political News Sources and Reference Bloggroll since i have tried to make researching the facts easier for my readers.

Thank you for stopping by. If this bill passes you will see first hand what i and others have been trying to tell you. I hope you are as well off as the Congressmen who vote Yes for this thing because otherwise you are going to be living the nightmare ahead with the rest of us peons. Sincerely, Brenda Bowers

You are kind to let someone ramble on so long for a comment, and then to respond so thoughtfully. You must have more patience than I do lol

I just felt it right to let a fool rave on about all the great things the Chinese, Japanese and Indians were going to “give” to the Americans. He is right you know because all of these things and a great deal more are in the Obamcare bill ( and previous bills that laid the ground works!), but he leaves out the parts about paying for all these goodies.

So it wasn’t at all patience but letting him do the job I have been trying to do in letting people know just what Obama’s agenda is and how far he and his fanatics have come. It was nice to see that some have been paying attention and actually understand what the ‘benefits” The One is “blessing” We the People with.

I am crying today Noon. I am crying but the fight has not gone out of me as I will continue to try to keep my readers informed. Once more I believe the Progressives have destroyed themselves with this bill. The Republicans will take back the House and Senate in November and they know they must listen to the American people. Much damage will have been done in even this short time but nothing that can not be overcome and rescinded. It will however take a great deal of courage for any congress to go against the will of those who do not think beyond their own comforts and want someone else to take care of them as if they were children. The longer the changes and goodies given to the weak are allowed to stand the harder it will be to take them back.

The fact is, the next Congress will have to stand firm against the people in order to do what needs done. Social Security needs to be abandoned, Medicare needs to be repealed. Sadly it can not be done all at once because there are those who can not afford to now purchase their own health care insurance now that they are elderly and the costs have been allowed (BECAUSE OF GOVERNMENT MEDDLING!) to escalate so. these people, me included, simply don’t have the income to do so. there are however seniors who do have the income and they must begin at once to carry their own weight. The same goes for Social Security. Then the younger people can begin to save for their own destiny as Americans always did before Woodrow Wilson, Franklin Roosevelt, Lyndon Johnson and now Obama. Yes these people will go down in American history but as traitors to their country not saviors! BB

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