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Walker’s Big Bet | The Weekly Standard.

People are asking why gov. Walker is still holding out to stop the unions from being able to bargain for their pay and benefits now that the unions have offered to pay some of their own retirement benefits and some of their health care insurance.  the following article is a good own and explains just what and why the Governor is holding out.  Remember this why reading this article: unions have made a lot of verbal promises and then changed their “minds” later.  As Gov. Walker knows this is a battle he MUST win.

Have you notice it is our state governments and governors who are showing backbone in tackling problems?  I hope the Congress people;e in Washington are watching how it is done and maybe will try a bit of back bone stiffening themselves—-especially the Old Dogs who will be voted out in 2012!

I hope you have also noticed the thuggish moves of the unions during all this.  AND, the unions are also busing in their people to capital cities in other states to protest.  Note the signs and protest methods then ask yourself how they compare to the Tea Party Movement.  Now I wonder why these people aren’t being vilified by the Main Stream Media (MSM) big three news channel (ABC< NBC< CBS)?  BB

So teachers are offering to accept Walker’s proposal that they contribute 5.8 percent of their salary to their pension (up from almost nothing) and pay about 12 percent for health insurance premiums (up from about 6 percent). That’s real money: about $4,000 before taxes for a teacher making $50,000 in base pay. But the increased contributions would still be only about half what a typical worker pays. With these two changes, Walker’s office projects school districts would save about $1 billion over two years—roughly the same amount by which the new budget will reduce state outlays to the schools.

If teachers are willing to make these concessions, why is it necessary to curtail collective bargaining? While Walker’s legislation would require all public employees, including teachers, to contribute more to the statewide pension program, its increase in health insurance premium payments does not apply to teachers unless implemented by school districts. The bill gets rid of collective bargaining for benefits in order to give the districts the option of increasing health insurance premium payments.

Get that?  If the unions keep their ability to legally bargain for benefits then the school boards and counties and tax payers all over the state are still able to be held up for ransom.

Please read the entire article.  It is a good one.  BB

Another post and the comments from a great blogger.  Spag stays on top of what is happening and says little himself but makes people aware of so much that is happening behind the scenes.   Be sure and read the comments as these are intelligent people who are more than able to analyze any situation.

Several reporters have stated that they had heard that Obama and the Democratic National committee were gearing up to send in thugs but did not report because they did not believe it.  Well the union thugs are out in force in  the demonstration with the teachers in Madison, Wisconsin.  BB


Meddling In State Affairs

Obama is criticized for meddling in state affairs stemming from the Wisconsin union standoff.  As an added bonus, we are treated to a photograph showing the tolerant, non-Hitler comparing Democratic core constituent in action.


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Obama is criticized for meddling in state affairs stemming from the Wisconsin union standoff. As an added bonus, we are treated to a photograph showing the tolerant, non-Hitler comparing Democratic core constituent in action.

It is reported that the DNC has sent in the obamination’s attack dogs, can you only imagine the RNC doing that! The MSM would have it all over the place, JR at the News & Recordless would have had it in bold letters, front page, but you hear merely a peep out of the MSM! NADA! Beau

Posted by: Beau | 02/18/2011 at 05:33 PM


It’s all Sarah Palin’s fault.

Posted by: Spag | 02/18/2011 at 06:53 PM


Indeed, there is a good correlation for using Hitler as a symbol in this fight as Obama is following in the footsteps of another well-known politician:

“As things stand today, the trade unions in my opinion cannot be dispensed with. On the contrary, they are among the most important institutions of the nation’s economic life. Their significance lies not only in the social and political field, but even more in the general field of national politics. A people whose broad masses, through a sound trade-union movement, obtain the satisfaction of their living requirements and at the same time an education, will be tremendously strengthened in its power of resistance in the struggle for existence.”

Adolph Hitler, Mein Kampf, 1926

Posted by: jaycee | 02/18/2011 at 06:54 PM


I thought that Obama called for a new era of civility? I guess not.

We now know that when teachers unions say “It’s for the children”, we know that they really mean “It’s for the union”. These are the people teaching our children? Makes a good case for charter schools and home-schooling.

Posted by: Stormy | 02/18/2011 at 07:27 PM


By the way, when was the last time that a sitting president unleashed his political party campaign organizing apparatus against a state government and meddled in the conduct of its legit and legal financial business? I’m not sure that it has ever happened, at least in this country. Someone help me, if I am wrong.

Posted by: Stormy | 02/18/2011 at 07:33 PM


“Someone help me, if I am wrong.”

Let’s ask Buie. He’s the expert on EVERYTHING, except when he’s not.

Posted by: bubba | 02/18/2011 at 09:08 PM


I suppose this pretty much says it all:

In total, unions spent in excess of $400 million electing Barack Obama in 2008. If the Obama campaign wants to raise $1 billion for the 2012 campaign, they’re going to have to do everything they can to get unions on board.

So here’s the Wisconsin public sector union showdown in a nutshell: A newly-elected GOP governor is trying to rein in a special interest by enacting reforms that he explicitly campaigned on.

And the Obama administration is siding with the special interest.

Posted by: Stormy | 02/18/2011 at 09:55 PM


A toast to our Right to Work Status in NC!

Posted by: axelskater | 02/18/2011 at 11:33 PM


Stormy, although I think Obama does have some socialist tendencies, I don’t believe he is a true socialist. I do believe that he is a unionist- which simply means he uses government to force the private sector to do its dirty work. That’s the union mentality, highly regulatory and coercive action.

Posted by: Spag | 02/19/2011 at 12:03 AM


Spag, you are much too charitable when it comes to Obama. I think that at a minimum he is a statist; the practice or doctrine of giving a centralized government control over economic planning and policy.

And, when you think about it, trade unions arose basically out of Marxist theory, in essence, the struggle of the economic classes. Trade unions are good as training grounds for the class struggle, and the Democrat Party is first and foremost about class struggles. You see it in their speeches and legislation all of the time. So, if Obama is a unionist at heart, he is in the range of Marxism and Lenonism Theory. He certainly cannot be confused as a capitalist or free market person.

Posted by: Stormy | 02/19/2011 at 12:00 PM

Brenda  Bowers

I am not yet ready to start blogging so am taking others posts to my site. Stealing this one Spag. 🙂 BB

Posted by: Brenda Bowers02/19/2011 at 03:38 PM

Dear Readers I still haven’t the energy to blog but I am going to be bringing you some posts from some of my favorite bloggers.   Today the most serious problem we face as a nation is playing out in Wisconsin with the show down between the public sector unions and Gov. Walker.  the Public sector union have ruled in state houses and the city and county elected officials  for decades now and they have been given outlandishly generous salaries and benefits at the tax payers expense.

It was unheard of for public employees to be members of unions and allowed to have collective bargaining until the 1970’s when the Liberals push it thru.  People employed by government traditionally have “safe and steady” jobs and therefore were considered to be well taken care of and compensated by having this security unlike the rest of us who work in the private sector and can lose our jobs just about any time. Now these people who have contracts that say they can not be fired for any reason and have salaries and benefits that would make those of us in the private sector praise the Lord are  literally fleecing the tax payers and in Wisconsin fighting to continue doing so.

I am bringing you the post of my dear friend Dr. Joe Guarino on this topic.  Please do visit Joe’s site; he blogs mostly on  local Greensboro, NC problems but Joe is a brilliant man  and very well informed on the national and international scenes as well.  BB

February 18, 2011

The Wisconsin Standoff

The situation emerging in Wisconsin is a reflection of the precarious economic situation in which we find ourselves.  We no longer have the extraordinarily prosperous society we once had.  Whereas the private sector has undergone a traumatic, impactful contraction, the public sector thus far has emerged relatively unscathed.

The emergence of Chris Christie in New Jersey and Scott Walker in Wisconsin has aroused among conservatives a yearning to see that kind of tough leadership among potential Republican presidential candidates.  Having the courage to face down public sector unions, and draw a line in the sand, is uncommonly seen in American politics.

Now, the unions in Wisconsin are conducting disorderly demonstrations in the streets in order to force a tax increase.  And Barack Obama has expressed solidarity with them, and is even reported to be directing his political troops to try to influence the situation.  This should reawaken the American people as to what Obama is all about.  He has sided with unions trying to force a tax increase for Wisconsin residents; and has sided against those trying to exercise good stewardship.  He has gratuitously interfered in the internal affairs of a state wrestling with budget difficulties.

Every viable organization must be able to have some degree over control over its personnel costs because these typically comprise a huge portion of overall expenses.  If you cannot control personnel costs, you are fighting with both arms tied behind your back.  That is why I have encouraged the city of Greensboro and Guilford County to look at these issues; and that is why C4GC is specifically studying this matter at the county level.

But the state of North Carolina and the federal government need to do so as well.  They are not immune from the effects of these inordinate expenses.

Much rides on what happens in Wisconsin.  If Walker does not win this battle, it will make other leaders gunshy.  This is a drama that will replay in other states, although the outcome will not necessarily be the same elsewhere.  In any case, we need to be rooting for Walker.  We cannot keep handling the public sector as if nothing has happened to our economy.

In the interim, we can survey the mess in the public spaces outside the state capitol building in Wisconsin:

Watch the latest video at

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Walker is doing what needs to be done. These teachers say it’s all for the children but their actions are saying otherwise. I hope Walker stands firm and will get some help himself to combat the outside influences trying to get him to cave in to the teachers union. Let these teachers get out in the real world of private enterprise and off the public dole and see if they can make a go of it. I’m guessing over 80% would not be able to find a job making what they are now with total compensation included.

Posted by: Enough | February 19, 2011 at 08:41 AM


Let’s not forget the cowardice of the Democrats who have left the state to avoid a vote. Very nice! That is very telling. They should be relieved of their office.

Posted by: Enough | February 19, 2011 at 08:55 AM


What we are seeing happen in Wisconsin is very possibly transformative for our country. Obama and the Democrat Party have cast their lot with the unions and protesters against the elected governor of Wisconsin, who is doing what he campaigned and was elected to do. This is a turning point in our nation. If Walker wins this battle, then it will spread to other states, and Obama and the Democrats know it. It will also bring pressure to bear in Washington for Obama to get serious about financial reform, and endanger his re-election in 2012. However, if they break Walker, then the die is cast for our nation. No financial reform will occur, and we will rapidly decline as a nation. The protesters have compared what is happening in Madison to Egypt. A more apt comparison is what happened in Greece and France, where Entitlement Derangement Syndrome ran wild in the streets. This is a defining moment for our country, and the Democrats know it. Obama has thrown his credibility as a leader on the sides of the protesters, when he dispatched his campaign organizing forces there. Which way will our country go? Will we become just another Western European Socialist country with massive debt from which it can never survive? And, with the foreign policy failures of this administration that we are seeing, with the world now on fire, if Obama is re-elected in 2012, then I am not optimistic about the future of this country. We need someone in the GOP to step forward, ready or not, and I do not think that the old horses are up to the task. I’ll take my chances with someone like a Scott Walker or Chris Christie. Our country cannot afford another John McCain as presidential candidate.

Posted by: Stormy | February 19, 2011 at 09:20 AM

Brenda  Bowers

Thank you Joe. I am taking this to my readers. this situation is dire as Stormy says Walker must prevail or it is over for our nation. this is Greece in the United States. All we don’t have is the police in the streets fighting the crowds and burning cars and buildings. Yet! I think it will come as Thumpka buses in the thugs.

Today the supporters of Walker are also out in the streets. as Stormy said this man said in his campaign speeches just exactly what he would do and he was elected to do it. BB

Posted by: Brenda BowersFebruary 19, 2011 at 10:49 AM

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